Should Shri Anna Hajare form a Political Party ?

Anna Hazare's team is involved in a more sacred and urgent mission than mere ruling the country efficiently over a life time. That is of cleansing the system, ridding it of the lacunae weakening the very roots of democracy such as prevailing since inception that of the elected representatives instead of behaving as servants of the people and working all out for the people, are in deed behaving as Masters/Lords of people and claiming more privileges over and above those of people and working to promote their sheer personal interests. This trend should be arrested by introducing and installation of proper checks so that the democratic system of the people is operated by the will of the people and only for the people. The system must be made to work truly irrespective of who comes to power at whatever time. It must be insulated against all possible misuse by unscrupulous elements who might by dubious means or other ascend to positions of power.

Great...but HOW...?

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Dear Sir,
I feel that India is a democracy and only elected Government can make a difference. They have got all the powers. I really dont feel that getting a bill or creating more laws will change the scope of the country as there are already enough laws in our country but they are not properly impleted. And the problem is the law makers are themselves fraud. How can u expect the system to be clean when the people responsible for its implementation itself is corrupt and unclean. "YATHA RAJA THATA PRAJA" this saying is befitting at this juncture. Unless there is a perfect ruler nothing is going to change, because the fraud rulers would always influence the system. They are there to loot people. If the government really has a will then there no need for such agitation. "We can take a horse near the water but cant make it drink[/b]". likewise we can force the government to pass a bill but can never force them to implement on ground. as every corrupt official and bureaucrat has direct or indirect support of the top ruling party or government as a fraction of it goes to them.

Going by the antics played by the parliamentarians after promising so much for making Annaji break his fast,
it seems that it the same old story of deception, cheat, lies from these BEEP parliamentarians.
All that was promised was just the words of NETAS which never have a meaning.
Annaji and his team has said that they have no intention of joining the politics inorder to bring the desired changes in the system, because our political system does not allow such a thing . As it has to be a party in majority in parliament that can bringa change and not a single member of parliament.

I feel that Annaji and his team should form a political party of the like minded persons and then become member of parliament. Then it will be easier for them to change this rotten system and this will make the life of the corrupted political lot more difficult.

Important thing is that they need not have the majority in the parliament,but instead choose to act like the KING MAKERS with may be as less seats as 15 - 20 or so.We have seen this been done in parliament so many time by jayalalitha, left parties and others.The britishers were much better than these BEEPS. Jab RAKSHAK HI BHAKSHAK bana ho to kya nyaay hoga, kaisa law and order... There will never be a chance where these BEEPS will allow the making of law which will make their own life hell.

Therefore ANNA TEAM must get on the same battlefield inorder to successfully crush these inhuman, demons.... . BEEP BEEP politicians in their own backyard.
There is no other way, as the entire nation has seen how shameless Sibbal, chidambaram,and their BEEP gang is. such disgrace to this great nation and to the people of this bharat mata.

What's - BEEP...?

Yes Summit,
that's the path, I feel this thread should tread(lead)!!!
It could have been shorter,but still its sweet!!
tis is abt Gnaeshan's post.

thanks

Dear shubham,
I agree with you. Even I firmly believe that laws that we have are enough topunish the guilty. But the rulers don't have the will power, simply because even the high and mighty persons are corrupt themselves. So they find loopholes in the law and save their skin because even govt. is not interested in punishing the guilty. Some daring laws do change the scenario, like RTI, but only upto a extent. When even judiciary is not free from the corruption,what is the gaurantee that LOkpal will be able to deliver! Ther is every chance of his being influenced!
But Janlokpal is a step in the right direction and can make a huge difference if rulers are willing. If they are unwilling they can prove the best of the bill ineffective.
Hence besides dictating from the sidelines civil society must do something to enter the law making body.
But 15-20 won't do. Just understand we are overturnig the whole system where these leaders are sitting in their cosy comforts!
Only a majority or near majority can do the trick. Anna, team Anna, and we should rise to that level!!
The way this movement is being spearheaded....I am afraid...after few more agitations where fast unto death is coupled with public rally and demo...it will slowly lose steam.
(Though my frndz won't agree with me! even i hate to write it)
But if U don't agree note it down and discuss this with me after May2014!!!
thanks for useful contribution!!
Prakash

Sri.Shubham's view point that democracy is already there in India is appreciated. But democracy is not working the way it is envisaged in the constitution. As long as people are ignorant of their fundamental rights, and are prepared to suffer poverty and persecution with deprivation of their inheritance and exploitation of their rightful opportunities, every thing looks good and nothing appears wrong. Please look at the following story to illustrate what is going wrong.

A wealthy man having several children became seriously ill. He appointed several people to manage his properties. He allocated to them their responsibilities how to manage the matters including raising of his children, educating etc as their guardians in his absence and fixed fair remuneration for all their jobs. He made a will distributing all his riches equally among all his children and died. His children who were in different age groups and most of them very young and uneducated were immature. After the death of the owner, the servants started exploiting the situation to their advantage. They kept the will a secret to the children. The servants started enjoying the riches. They were behaving as if they were the masters and treated the children as as beggars. They were not sent to school nor allowed access to society outside. The children had to work hard to earn their food, clothes and shelter. They divided the children into different categories on the basis of their color and sex and gave different treatment,by the time some of the children matured into adulthood. The young adults always quarreled with one another on some petty issues such as which color and model of clothes they are eligible to use on a particular day etc. Some of them had learned to read and write but never knew subjects such as maths, science, law etc. One day the young adults were asked to sign certain papers by those who were acting as their Masters, because according to the will, it was mandatory for the servants to get periodic approval of a majority of the adult heirs to legally retain their jobs. More years went by and all the children grew up into their thirties but the situation remains the same for them. By that time some of them learned from outsiders that they were in deed the heirs of the estate in which they were working as coolies. once they know the real truth what should they do to retrieve their inheritance, now since they have already signed their approval for management of assets valid for a few more years? Now those who know the truth must inform their entire clan and prepare for making their legitimate demands, setting aside their petty internal quarrels. Is it not??

The situation is more or less similar in our case. Our fathers generation was under British rule and got used to their autocratic ways of ruling. Somehow Gandhiji and scores of other freedom fighters made sacrifices of their lucrative career opportunities jumped into the freedom movement, communicated with the masses, succeeded in bringing unity among the masses in protesting against the autocratic rule. The British rulers finally yielded but left our country divided for us to decide the future.
Our founding fathers purposefully deliberated for long on how to administer our future rule so that all can enjoy equal rights. They have made a constitution largely following the British system of governance but with some essential difference. Here the people are the sovereigns. They are supreme and powerful. They elect their representatives for each geographical constituency by majority votes of the people living there to constitute legislative assemblies for states and parliament for the nation. These bodies in turn must decide who should head the council of ministers to form a government and how they should be accountable from time to time. These houses must discuss, and pass the bills outlining the details of policies to be adopted. The people, the sovereigns must finally approve the parliament approved proposals to make them into laws. On behalf of the people symbolically one is elected to do their job. That is president. The people's privileges are exhibited through the president as the supreme and the privileges of all others including the council of ministers, secretaries and other employees of the governments must be subservient to the president viz; people. Our governments are the peoples' governments and all employees working for governments must be called peoples' servants.

But are we having the ground situation like this? We have these government servants lording over people exercising illegitimate super powers. Are we the people the masters or those employed to serve us are the masters?

It is our power that we delegate to governments to perform certain activities to fulfill their responsibilities to ensure that we benefit from that. We means here the common man. All the citizens who can identify themselves with the needs, entitlements and aspirations of the common man. When we pay the taxes to pay their salaries and for providing infrastructure and other facilities for our benefit, these governments are misusing the power vested in them by indulging in irresponsible actions of commission or omission thereby allowing huge amounts are either diverted for purposes inconsistent with the needs of the common man or looted by vested interests. Is this the dispensation that the common man wants? The present day governments are doing too little for the common man where as the common man is over burdened with taxes. Where should the common man go and complain? Constitutional bodies such as comptroller and auditor general (CAG) who is to verify the actions of the governments closely and report to parliament, are disregarded by the successive governments and their reports are treated as mere formalities. Courts seldom interfere on their own and it is too costly for the common man to approach the courts against the governments. The presidential position is too often occupied by people who do not feel the pulse of the common man. Otherwise the president has enormous power to to stop the governments and the legislative bodies when they act against people's interests. Most of the time we have people there as presidents, who are there only to enjoy the symbolic powers and riches accumulated by common man's toil.

Political parties are busy with their narrowed down agendas of dividing people on their assorted ideologies and creating unnecessary conflicts on the basis of caste, creed, community, race, religion, region, language, class and what not with the sole purpose of creating their respective vote banks all for the purpose of capturing power. The common man is left bewildered as he does not even know that he is the Sovereign and most powerful. But our generation never enjoyed the legitimate powers and privileges of a democracy and wasted decades waiting for elusive change, hoping it might come by change of ruling dispensation.

Across all these mutually conflicting artificial barriers stand out distinctly the common man's woes and aspirations. It is this pulse that Anna Hazare represents. At last there is one honest, unselfish, courageous and bold man prepared to display their true power like brilliant mid day Sun, the scorching heat of which is bound to melt and evaporate all the icy mountains of mighty illegitimate powers.

Hi everyone,

mscbose's post is excellent; the analogy is quite good.

Ganesan. :~)