Should Shri Anna Hajare form a Political Party ?

Jai Bharat

aaj (14/9/11) ka smachaar ptra "Times of India" English Daily, Delhi Edition (front page) bahut achchha samachaar laya he.

"ANNAJIAB ACHCHHEY LOGO SE VANI RAJNETIK PARTY KO DISHA-NIRESH (sehyog) DENE TO SEHMAT HO GEY HE. SHYAD HUM LOGO KA KOI SANDESH BHI UN TAK PAUNCHA HO."

This is really encourageous that after around 10 days discussion on the topic "Should Sh. Anna Hazarey form a Political Party", there is a news that Annaji is ready to support a New Party of like minded people. This shows that we all are on right track. Now we should try to be more serious and sincere to convert this modern India into a "BHARAT MAHAN".

Kya sh. kejrivalji aur Team Anna va dusrey logon se smaprak kiya ja sata he. is par vichaar kareyn.

Discussion should be continued on the topic that which type of Political Party it should be and What agenda of work can yield Fruits in short run to take all Bhartiya along for a strong Foundation of BHARAT MAHAN.

Jai Bharat

Dear Friends,

Yes, what sgaserv says is true. It really has happened.

However there is a small difference.

I've already posted this somewhere else on this forum, so without wasting any more of your time, I'll just give you the link to it.

Here it is -

High time.....anna supporters should contest next elections and we should make them win

Thanks,

All the Best,

Summit.

Dear Friends,

I am happy to note that many of our friends agree with the proposal that" Shri Anna should form a political party".
It is cristal clear that,without coming to power with honest,clean,educated and patriotic members under the leadeship of Annaji,we cannot change the picture of our nation.We cant expect proper implimentation of Lokpal Bill by today's corrupt politicians.
We should contest Loksabha to start with and then Sate Assemblies.
If by all means, Annaji decides not to contest 2014 Loksabha Elections,then in my opinion, only better alternative would be Mr Narendra Modi.He is a strong man,efficient,capable and successful in Gujarat.Also he is from RSS,which is the nation building organisation.To tackle corruption related issues,terrorism,China,Kashmir problem and Pakistan,he is the perfect man.Annaji can keep control on him with his agenda.He has shown his ability in Gujarat in last 10 years.He has a blame for 2002 Gujarat riots,but I think ,it was the reaction of Godhra and the atmosphere in Gujarat in past few years.Ofcourse,it is not the matter of our discussion.
It is true that some BJP ministers are also corrupt in Karnataka,but we dont have better choice.Congress and its allies are worst.
Its a high time to think on this.

Regards
Subhash Ghuge
Chartered Accountant
Pune.

As i had posted earlier politics is a dirty game, Saint like ANNA should
stay out from it


But they can support Strong Administrator like Narendra Modi openly,
because on current status of our Indian Politics we need strong leadership.

First Supreme Court & then US congress had already proved wrong to all
critics of Mr Modi.

JAY HIND !!!

DEAR FRIENDS,

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THE DIFFERENCE.

ANNAJI HAS ANNOUNCED THAT HE WILL NOT FIGHT ELECTIONS; THAT HE WILL NOT FORM A POLITICAL PARTY.

ALL HE HAS SAID IS THAT HE WILL SUPPORT ANY POLITICAL OUTFIT WHICH PROMISES TO FIGHT CORRUPTION AND SUPPORT THE JAN LOKPAL BILL, EVEN IF THAT POLITICAL OUTFIT IS A NEW ONE.

PLEASE TAKE CARE TO MAINTAIN THE DIFFERENCE; BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT CAN FUEL RUMOURS ABOUT ANNAJI GOING POLITICAL, WHICH HE'S CLEARLY NOT. IF SUCH RUMOURS SPREAD, VESTED INTERESTS COULD TRY TO MALIGN ANNAJI AND SPOIL HIS IMAGE, IN ORDER TO HARM THE MOVEMENT.

ANNAJI HIMSELF HAS RUBBISHED THE RUMOURS ONCE; WE MUST NOT LET THEM COME UP AGAIN.

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING POST. PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS A LINK NOT JUST TO THE THREAD, BUT DIRECTLY TO THE POST IN THAT THREAD THAT CONTAINS THIS INFORMATION. I REPEAT - IT IS A LINK DIRECTLY TO THAT POST, AND NOT JUST THE THREAD. HERE IT IS -

LINK : High time.....anna supporters should contest next elections and we should make them win (Please Note that this is a Link DIRECTLY to the POST, and NOT JUST the THREAD.)

Thank You,

Summit.

Jai Bharat

I have posted my views on problems like Corruption, Reservation, etc. and tried to find out root cause for the same (page 7); however, not even a single friend felt it worth to continue with their valuable thoughts. Never Mind, as I said earlier, I will continue on the topic.

Dear friends, the origin of all problems like Corruptions, Inhumanity, Naxalism, Growth of anti social elements, etc. those are being faced by the whole world at present, are mainly because of created POVERTY for FIVE ESSENTIALITIES (Food, Clothing, Shelter, Education, Medical helps) by the VERY BAD AND POOR ADMINISTRATION / GOVERNANACE coupled with a blind run for LUXURIES with LUST.

Now the Question is,
How can Bharat get rid of all these problems while making best use of all resources as claimed?

For Good and Efficient Administration, every nation need a set of very HONEST and DEDICATED people those really ready to think ahead and differently with all good experiences of Good Governance of Past (says the period of ACHARYA CHANKAYA).

After reading handful of books and literature and seeing a serial (Produced and Directed by Dr. C.P. Dewedi) on ACHARAYA CHANKAYA, I have presumed that for “Sumanglam Bharat”, all such person those believe in very simple but dedicated life for Bharat Mahan must unite now under the Direction of Annaji and team spirit of Team Anna.

KATNI AUR KARNI AB EK ZAISI HO JAY TO HAR BHARTIYA NISHCHIT ROOP SE HAMREY SATH HOGA ZAISA KI 15-29 AUGUST, 2011 TAK SAB NE ANUBHAV KIYA.

Annaji ki honesty and Simplicity and Team Anna’s solidarity toward this noble cause had impressed every bhartiya to the extent that now every state Government has started talking about Citizen Charter.

We all can also follow such principles at first place: LET'S HAVE A LOOK OVER BHARAT'S PRINCIPLES TO LIVE

Today everyone (he/she) is modern Indian or trying to be a Converted Bhartiya for the sake of good and peaceful living. Irrespective to Education/ Job either Govt, PSU or private sector/ Self Employed small or Big business man or Professional/ Income level/ Yogi/ Guru/ Satsangi ............ so on, everyone (me too) is trying to show his/her SUPERMACY over others.

In ancient Bharat,
Yes,
people used to work, they used to compete, they used to do business, they used to live with luxuries, they used to have a love for Ornaments, they used to feed their children, they used to think be a big personality in any respective Kingdom, they used to enter into Business and Social commitments ........... and so on.
But,
the undisputed history of Mahan Bharat depicts that it was a great nation on this Universe and even just 500 years ago and so, INVADERS called that BHARAT as Soney Ki Chidia.

Why was it? And how can today's undirected, uncultured, unsocial, misbehaved and impractical crowd of confused Indians take an advantage to ruin the past culture of Bharat.
No, this can’t be if we just have a look at our ANCESTORS’ PRINCIPLES TO LIVE ON THIS EARTH.........

1) Zaisa Khaogey Ann Vaisa Baneyga Mun------means WHATEVER WE EAT THAT WILL CONVERT OUR CONCIOUS AS THE SAME.
IF WE EAT VEGETRIAN (SATVIK) WE WILL BEHAVE LIKE SAINT AND IF WE EAT OTHERWISE (TAMSIK), OUR CONCIOUS WILL DEFINATELY TURN TO THE SAME WAY. I think no argument is required on the same and anyone of us can feel it with a month experience.

2) Zaisa Piyogey Panni Vaisi Baneygi Vaani--------means WHATEVER WE DRINK THAT STRAIGHT AWAY HAS AN IMPACT ON OUR SPEAKING CAPABILITY.
If we drink pure Water to fulfill Thrust, our speaking pronunciation will be perfectly all right with no nonsense and the moment one move to Hard Drink (Sharaab), the animal behave (unsocial) can’t be ruled out. No need to say, just have an experience.

3) Zaisa Pehnogey Vastra Vaisa Payogey Charitra---------means the Clothes we wear, our Character will shape accordingly.
Just see a NACHANEY- GANEY walow ko aur unkey pehanavey ko (have a look at Dancers and singers right from old days to present one). Glamour look is simply a try by them to hide their real identity.
Moreover, First Impression always is judged from Clothing style of any human being.

4) Zaisa Karogey Byavhaar Vaisa Payogey Satkaar (Vyapaar)-----------means the way we Behave, Respect will be retrospect.
If one does not behave decently even if he/she may be close one, the return will not be decent.

5) Zaisa Rakhogey Nivaas Vaisa hoga Vikaas-----------means Live-in place generate energy to work and therefore for positive energy we need small and clean (things which really needed and provide SATVIK (positive) waves) instead big and Dusty (useless luxuries which inculcate TAMSIK thoughts. This also harms workings to a level that overall growth decline. Everyone is experiencing the same at present even at individual to national level.

(As per Bharat’s old tradition, first thing one used to do to clean his/her living place and start other chores (activities) for the day. That keep a man alive through out the day and therefore in this case, how Growth can be disturbed?
Contrary to this, today in of Modern world when majority of us awake between 6.30 to 9 am and the expected results are in front of us in the shape of overall disturbances.

6) Zaisa Ucharogey Mantra Vaisa Milega Yantra-----------means the way one gets education and dedication towards goal, the techniques and knowledge (Mantra) one gets would be similar to that.
Here, one has to decide that whether he/she wishes to be a Constructive (like Lord RAMA) or Destructive (like RAVANA). If studies are persued for good cause then Bharatiya Values will be there and if studies are being taken as a tool to accumulate LUXURY and to fulfill Lust of POWER then present world’s techniques (like Manipulation, Fabrication, Exploitation and Mischievousness) will come handy.

7) Zaisa karogey Upkaar Vaisa Payogey Uphaar----------means the way one does social goodness, the respect in return will automatically comes.
Here the live example is of ANNAJI and Team Anna. He wished (is wishing) to do something for social goodness and just see what amount of RESPECT they are getting today.

So dear all Bhartiyas, can’t we try these principles at first place to provide a team for which every one of us is talking. This means no big incomes, no Palaces with ACs, Big TVs, big Refrigerators, Washing Machines, No Tamsik meals (kya – kya khaun), No run for big Public School for our wards’ education as we need Mantras for Construction not destruction, no arrangement of Big Gifts (Upkaar) and above all no big Celebrity Status is required.

Now we must educate Bhartiyas that when you Votes for electing IMPLEMENTORS of all Good Bills like JANLOKPAL, Right to Recall, etc. etc., must see all abovesaid principles, should be adhared by the candidate or not. This will be a first most important step towards Good Governance.

I will continue with discussion

JAI BHARAT
www.sgaserv.com

Gentle men ! "Its a great news that Hon'ble has declared not to form any type of political party."

However, Mishra ji, he has said he will support Honest Political Outfits, even if they're New Ones.

That led me to add this Post to the Thread -

LINK : High time.....anna supporters should contest next elections and we should make them win (Please Note that this is a Link DIRECTLY to the POST, and NOT JUST the THREAD.)

I hope you've already read that; if not please do. I feel it really is important for all of us.

Thanks,

Summit.

Dear Summit, et al,

IMHO, this won't work, broadly for the following reasons:

1. Anna doesn't know you or me (I mean all the people getting involved in such a political party, if we founded one) personally and so, on what basis will he support us?

2. Even if Anna supports, people will have doubts, because they don't know you and me. How can they trust us?

In fact, Anna may have difficulty getting his party people elected, even if he formed one. If we form one hoping to win on the basis of Anna's support, we'll be fighting a futile battle.

3. Issues like the ones I'd outlined in my previous posts (like reservation, capitalistic model or socialistic model, work with which parties, whether to be pro-US or not, whether to give specific benefits to minorities, and the many more) will divide us, and we'll split even before we've started, even assuming we're all honest.

4. Once a few people come close to power, and have access to resources (esp. money), you'll start seeing their true colours. This could even be me (I'm not saying I'm insincere right now, but when I have access to powers, who knows?). Please read ToI's Top Article today, titled: "It shouldn't pay to pay bribes"
It shouldn't pay to pay bribes - The Times of India

I believe only a system that doesn't tolerate crimes of any kind (incl. bribes and inflicts such severe punishment that we dare not do them) can control crimes, not you or I being better individuals than the present day politicians or bureaucrats.

Thanks,

Ganesan :~(

@Ganesan

So what do you suggest we should do ?