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SC/STs Reservation - Creamy Layer

This is a grave error and the root cause of all problems. First you need to recognize *who* the SC/STs .....




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This is a grave error and the root cause of all problems. First you need to recognize *who* the SC/STs are and who the OBCs are. If you cannot even have this level of discussion, you will continue to make these wild allegations against SC/STs.


The SC/STs are the real downtrodden unfortunate souls who for ages have been performing menial tasks (cleaning drains, cobblers, carrying night soil, eating rats and so forth). Even today, SC/STs land holdings are miniscule. Let me put in easy language for you. There are very very few SC/STs who own say 1 ground of land in Chennai or even in the villages. They usually toil in other peoples lands. This is the situation. Yes, there is a creamy layer among SC/STs but that isnt thick enough. They have still some way to go before enough of them cross over the line, start owning lands - ownig companies / shops/ restaurants and so forth. So reservations for SC/STs - even if they deny some merit candidates are fully justified at the 22.5 % level. You just cannot expect to run away from your obligations towards the inhuman way these unfortunate souls have been treated. Harping about reservations to SC/STs is a losing cause. At 22.5% it certainly has not damaged the IITs and IIMs in any way.
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Now coming to the OBCs, this is where the fun starts.


Again, it is important to understand who the OBCs are - and the position they occupy in society vis-a-vis the SC/STs. If you dont understand their position in society (either by intuition or by reading between the lines in the media) - then you cant expect to have a meaningful discussion on the current issue.


The OBCs are the most powerful people in India today. They were also powerful yesterday, 50years back, 100 years, 200 years back. In TN, the OBCs are Mudaliars, Pillais, Gounders, and Thevars, at least these are the dominant ones. These are large land holding communities, each dominant in their own geographical areas of Tamilnadu. The important fact to remember is that at no point in history were these communities subject to injustice. The brahmins (the main non BC community in Tamilnadu - others are Chettiars) were in no position to torment these communities. This was probably because the Brahmins were really dependent on handouts from these communities. The OBCs have dominated for decades, for example there are only *2* FC MLAs in the TN assembly. One is H.Raja of BJP and the other is your Amma. Most top private univesities are owned by OBCs. The richest Tamilian is also classified as OBC, so are all his relaties. It is for these people that the IIT/IIMs want to reserve seats. That is the issue being discussed now.


Do not also have any illusions about the capabilities of students from Mudaliar / Pillai / Gounder and other OBC communities. They can easily outscore and outshine brahmin students in entrance exams, in the universities, in real life. Yes, that is the fact. Last year, only 40 students from the FC category got admisson to MBBS courses even though 200 seats were available for them to contest. I would bet that the remaining 160 seats were taken by Mudaliar / Pillai / Gounder students - not because of reservation. It is because they are just better students who beat the brahmins fair and square in the exam.
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The verdict is a progressive step towards ensuring equality and inclusiveness. However, the exclusion of the creamy layer will prevent candidates from the communities which are socially and educationally backward but economically moderate from getting the benefit of reservation.
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These all information which you can share over here is really very great. The exclusion of the creamy layer that can be prevent the candidates from the communities which all are really great in all these there are so many things which is very great.
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In all these there are so many things which is really very great. If you dont understand their position in society (either by intuition or by reading between the lines in the media) - then you cant expect to have a meaningful discussion on the current issue.
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Guarantees of equality and inclusiveness verdict is a step towards progressive. However, the social exclusion of creamy layer, but economically and educationally backward from the middle of the book benefits from a candidate in a society that can be avoided.
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All these are so many things that a lot of really creamy layer exclusion great.the social and educationally backward communities, but to benefit financially from the middle of the reservation will be for the candidates to stop.
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Well,This whole information that you can share here is really nice. The exclusion of the creamy layer that can prevent candidates from the communities which are all very well in all these.There so many things are nice sharing.
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Firstly I want to know that it is not 49.5% but a reserve of 27% for OBC, so that currently it has no connection with reservation SC / ST. So if you can now stop cursing SC / st reservation because of the current problem, then u can ignore this blog. so that very benifit in SC/ST candidates.
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Rule out the cream layer will prevent the candidates from the community, social and educational backwardness, but in the economic moderate, to ensure equality and inclusive decision is a step towards progress.
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