Will the new Lok Pal bill solve the problem of corruption in India?

Will the new Lok Pal bill solve the problem of corruption in India?

The privilege system is anti-democratic.

There is an old saying “You can’t have your cake and eat it too”.

This means is you can either keep the cake (and feel happy that you have it) or enjoy eating it.

Too many people want the privileges.

Anti-corruption has become a fad, a fashion.

If we wish to really reduce corruption, we need more than just a Lok Pal.

Let us try to answer these questions

1) How many Lok Pals will there be ?

2) How many petitions can a single Lok Pal hear/attend in a day ?

3) How many people do you think are suffering from corruption and need redressal ?

4) Why has the citizen of India not been able to fight corruption ?

5) How many cases are lying pending in the courts today ?

6) Is there any reasonable guarantee that a judge will give the correct/fair ruling ?

7) Is the judge subject to the influence of power and corruption ?

8) Is this a valid justification that “I was ordered to do so by my boss/head/chief”

9) If the above is a valid justification, why are people tried for “crimes against humanity” ?

10) Have you heard the old saying “Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely”

The fundamental problem lies in the simple fact that power does not lie in the hands of the people.

While people are allowed to vote, this is treated as a mere formality to be carried out, every few years.

Does the Constitution of India, in its present form really empower the citizens of the country ?

Why is there a special act that provides immunity to Judges and Government Employees ?

Some will argue that such immunity is required for a smooth functioning of the system.

Others may argue that, this immunity is equivalent to absolute power, and is responsible for the current pathetic state of affairs in our country.

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It is never really over

Be Positive, When we starting a movement. There may be doubts about the goals to achieve. But from my real life experience. If We want to achieve a goal, We have to jump into the ground and start the process.

I have no intention of being negative. The New Lok Pal Bill is a great start.

But a parallel issue needs to be addressed too, especially when there is momentum.

The proposed Lok Pal Bill does not adequately address Sec. 197 of Cr.PC.

Sec. 197 of Cr.PC should be annuled.

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It is never really over

It is NOT correct to say that anti-corruption movement has become a fad or fashion.

Today, corruption is a 'Cradle to the Grave' reality in India. In fact, it starts even before the cradle stage. When a lady is admitted for child-birth one often has to bribe sundry minions and others at the hospital to ensure proper care is given Thereafter, at every stage in the life of the child, from kindergarten admission to college to employment, corruption is the norm.

Kapil Sibal says that if a person wants hospital admission he has to speak to a politician and Lok Pal will not help! How absurd! This really shows the disconnect in the minds of our so called political leaders most of whom are corrupt and rotten to the core. Kapil Saab, if corruption is eliminated, the common man will not need a politician's dirty influence and favor to secure admission in an hospital. The rules when these are implemented without fear or favor will ensure that the system takes care of citizens' medical needs.

The bottom line is Anna Hazare has given a golden opportunity to all Indians to get rid of corruption that is endemic in India. He has no axes to grind. It is up-to us to carry the torch forward and build a better, decent India. Alternatively we could go back to deep slumber and let our politicians (all parties included as 99.5% of all politicians are CROOKS), bureaucracy and others loot and rape the country. If this happens even GOD will not be able to save India. Remember, we have politicians who did not hesitate to sell 2G spectrum and telecom licences to even Dawood Ibrahim front companies.

Making noise about corruption, and rooting it out are two different things.

How many people know what Sec 197 CrPC is ?

http://www.indiankanoon.org/doc/12704/

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It is never really over

Making noise about corruption, discussing it in public forums, raising the awareness of the people against corruption are all part of the process of rooting out corruption.

Dear Friend,

You have asked lot of question in one go, let me simplify this by pin-pointing the reasons for failure and remedies. As you have mentioned rightly that people have not been powerful and awaken. The simple reason to my mind that India was a country of monarchism since last two thousand years followed by British suppression. People of India didn't choose democracy but it was imposed by British and our few learned leaders.Police system inherited the trait of suppressing public and treating themselves as masters. Civil servants were no more different, most of those got there who belonged to elite class and having urban life culture. Democracy may be imposed but democratic value among citizenry can't be. As a nation, India is slowly reaching the stage where democratic value has evolved atleast in youger generation. They talk about their rights. They know the powers of police and their own and hence they revolt at times. Corruption will be less, the better democratic values evolve among citizenery.

Now coming specifically on Jan Lokpal. It will reduce corruption if not wipe out completely. Don't go by number of Lokpal members that is not important, the important is will this small number of Jan Lokpal have enough teeth to enforce the law. Law enforcement is the challenge. And to my opinion, if intention are good and will power is strong then number won't matter. After all, one T.N. Sheshan was enough capable to show the nation that fear-free and unbiased polls can be conducted. Corruption mainly happen in 3 categories -
1. Policy matter (Big ticket items like Spectrum, hydrocarbon, mining ie Natural Resource distribution)
2. Service Delivery (Ration card, FIR booking, Electricity connection, Muncipal corporation etc) - These are petty corruption which is faced by a general public in day to day life. Services can be categorized and then time frame can be fixed for delivery. If any officer doesn't deliver service neither mention the reason of doing so explicitly with in time frame then he is liable for punishment.
3. File Movement in government departments and transparency - Framework could be made and easily implemented.

Lokpal can oversight the implementation and enforcement and this will act as deterrent in corruption. Jan Lokpal have enough check and balances to ensure selection of honest and working individuals.

So, we shall not have any negativity at this moment.

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Regards,
Sanjay Rai
A Small Sepoy
India Against Corruption

I think we must all know where we stand today in India's history.This may prove either a turning point or a collective failure.Since India gained freedom from the British, India faces gravest threat in its history.What are the lessons to be learnt:
(1)Come what may we must all remain united against corruption.
(2) This is only a beginning of a long and hard battle against corruption
(3) We must never lose the focus which is to fight corruption at all levels of our society.This fight is not about Narendra Modi, Nitish Kumar,Mallika Sarabhai,Kapil Sibal,Barkha Dutt.etc.etc........Just ignore who said what,get down to the real issue and stop squabbling with each other about what lies ahead.Remember it is a long road.

Someone has made a start.Let us all close our ranks behind that 73 yr.old fighter.Jai Hind,Vande Mataram.

God Bless ANNA !
We need to work together as INDIANS forgetting our religion or language, none can stop us winning in all works of life. JAI HIND!

Anna Hazare has shown us the path all we need to do is just walk on it,
JAN LOK PALL bill is just the starting,it is not the end of war against corruption ,if this not works all of us must stand again and show the govt we r not quitting.