Step up against the reservation system in India

"Gentle men ! Time has approached when a unique system is required. The system which could let experts to come forth and poor to meet their livings. Entire system should be transparent. Each and every person should get accoriding to his/her performances/ talent. Government should make policy after healthy discussion with public and should make personal touch to the person or groupe being benefitted that means to make policy or budget is not sufficient. It will be quite good if all living in our country be called indian and may have right to get right place that he/she desserve. Neither reservation nor corruption should carry forward."

We are all naked under our shirts and pants. Caste or religion or anything else cannot alter this basic element. Those who keep dividing people on these lines have vested interests of their and whether we like it or not the power is in their hands and they will never allow the social awareness to rise to this level where reservation will finally be uprooted from India. People from our own midst would not allow this to happen, because under the garb of reservation they will perennially reap the benefit of it and will always remain in the haloed chambers of 'haves'. And mind you, the only division that exists in this world is the one between the 'haves' and 'have-nots'. All other distinctions are mere facade which we are forced to countenance so that we are kept engaged in this kind of discussions that would not touch the real issue. This discussion has gone on in the past, is going on now in the present and will go in the future as well without resolving anything at all because those who have the power in their hands will never allow this to happen. Though this kind of discussion gives some kind of hope in as much as it shows that we are not here to curse the darkness, but to light the candle that can guide us through that darkness to a safe and sane future.

Sinhaji - the mature nations you speak of also do not have the kind of population India has. Our problem is there are too many people and too little jobs. Every one here has spoken so vehemently against resrevation and how politicians have divided us on the basis caste. May I ask a pointed question: How many of us truly and honestly practise it when they say "casteism is bad"?

@Vinay - You say "The only viable solution to help poor is to give them free education, free uniforms and free meals.". Is this not already being done? Why is it not working? Who gets the most benefit of the rationing system that we have? Is it the poor or the middle-men responsible for getting the food delivered to those in need?

It is very easy to say "do away with it" - govt. (as twisted as it may be) still has to maintain a certain transperancy and has to provide benefits to as many people as it can - if it has to even qualify as being followers of the country's constitution. Reservation is but one of many such schemes intended to benefit the less provileged sections. It is very easy to look at the west and say "see how they do it". Its not that straight-forward, otherwise it would have been done a long time back. No, its not corruption why it has not happened - corruption can still work even if we have "equality for all". The point is the logistics are simply mind-boggling due to the sheer number of people we have - add to that the demograpics, it makes things complicated. So what does a govt. that wants to uplift people, do in such a case? Make everything merit based? That is a sure-shot way of relegating the really backward people into oblivion - wiping them out virtually. Given that there are very little govt. jobs relative to aspirants as it is, and not helping the backward people by way of "privileges" will only ensure that their future generations do not have a chance to come up. Reservation is not about the present, its about the future. When seen on a large scale, the man who gets a job "unfairly" today will be able to send his kids to school (because he can afford to now) and those kids will then be more empowered, and then their kids will be even more empowered - to the point that they themselves will never feel the need to take advantage of reservation. Agreed that there is a lot of corruption, a lot of crap that goes on...but is there a better and less fool-proof way?

Gentle men ! Today We are facing numbers of problems eg. corruption, reservation, poverty, lack of proper education and so on. Unfortunately these all problems are well inter-linked. In my opinion poor system reults in all these above mentioned problems. We have a good example "China". Worlds largest county on population based is maintaining his position of developed country. China has unique sytem and they are good follower of the present requirement. We still are counted as voter and supporter of a political party. We need to play a roll of master who must have close eye to all the person whom he/she has given power to work for the goodness then only we will be capable to root out these problems like reservation and corruption etc.............else things are to go round and round.

You can pickup one line. One will be empowered, then their kids will be more empowered and their kids will be more and more empowered. It means ladder of reservation must be fixed to the houses of already privileged community? How long? It has been more than 60 years of its implementation (3 generations) and still they need reservation. As a preliminary round, it is alright to have different kind of opinions from different quarters. We all might have noticed that earlier we were hopeless. Now we are hopeful and tomorrow we may see the complete abolition of reservation system. Till yesterday, nobody had imagined that powerful ministers and CEOs will be behind bars but it happened. There is a classic but simple example in everybody's life. When you are about to travel by a train through hundreds of kilometers, you are tense thinking how your journey would be? Once the train starts, you get relived gradually and finally you reach your destination. The first starter is implementation. Our scheme is-
1. Form a committee in each state and a central committee.
2. Fix the membership fee for various expenses.
3. Meet the Prime Minister and discuss the matter.

To make it simple, we are suggesting only 3 points for now. Later we can decide future course of action. Our genius members (preferably Delhiites who can meet PM in Delhi) can give their names here.

By "empowered", I mean "less dependent on reservation" - it is happening. Public sector is only one half, look at the private sector. There you will see these empowered people working - and through merit. But to bring them to the stage where they can compete like this, by merit that is, somewhere in the past they, or their parents, got "unfair" privileges. Yes, when its comes to govt. or public sector employment, perhaps reservation is anathema to those who covet it - but it is in the private sector that reservation has enabled the underprivileged to come up to a stage where they can now compete without any more assistance, with the general crowd - is that a bad thing?

China has more population than India. It is a mature country and has no reservation policy. Even after practising reservation for over 60 years if we have not been able to achieve the desired results, it is the failure of successive governments, and their failures can be variously described as mis-governance, mal-governance or non-governance. As for the pointed question about 'casteism', it is not for the likes of us to answer but for the government of the day to answer. The vested interests in the government have persisted with this caste system. Why can't they simply remove the column of caste from all kinds of forms that we are required to fill in and fill out every now and then? The policy of reservation is meant to aid only a handful and they belong to the group of 'haves'. And those who have it want to have it more. The recent disclosures of scams should serve as an eye opener for all those who still speak in favour of reservation. Some of the immediate beneficiaries of this policy are A. Raja, Kanimozhi and the entire range of DMK functionaries in TN, Laloo Prasad and Ram Bilas Paswan and many others. Will you put them in the category of 'haves' or 'have-nots'?
In order that every body has a level play-field, it is imperative that this monster called reservation is removed forthwith. The government instead should create infrastructure suitable for equitable growth of all. Thus equipped, citizens' talents will come to fruition and the nation will benefit. Otherwise some individuals will gain at the cost of the nation, because the nation will be afflicted with the worst kind of division between the 'haves' and 'have-nots'. While this gap will never be fully bridged, it can certainly be reduced. If this is not done India will continue to suffer and stagnate as its deprived lot will continue to suffer and stagnate and this would not augur well for the country. That is why the reservation must go. This is the biggest divisive force dividing the country.
In the Victorian England, Charles Dickens was often asked by the establishment as to why he only criticized and not provided any solution to the problems he highlighted. His terse reply was--my job is to show you the dark spots... it is for you to provide light because you have the necessary wherewithals and the responsibility is thrust on you and not on me.

China is more mature than India? In terms of governance? I beg to differ - it is an autocracy that rules with an iron fist. Its poor are more exploited than India's. And there's no freedom or democracy in true spirit. Media & the internet are highly controlled by the government. You call that mature? Comparing China & India is like comparing apples to oranges. Here the govt. does not exploit people, there govt. itself is made of the powerful monopolists.

Indeed, there are fundamental differences between the two countries and the comparison was limited to population and maturity. Nothing beyond that. Whether they are mature or not is a matter of perception. In India government does not exploit people! Ha, ha, ha! There are innumerable instances of institutional cheating and deception in India committed by the government on its hapless people. Only, we can raise our voice while the Chinese cannot. That's hardly a solace to a nation where almost 80% of people make do with Rs. 20 a day and the benefits are pocketed by a handful. Look at Mukesh Ambani! You can never have a Mukesh Ambani in China. But, yes, we cannot carry this comparison very far and we are not. The angst was population is not the only reason why we are suffering. While reservation has contributed to our sad plight, this too is not the only reason. But its a major reason just the same. It is the duty of the government to provide wherewithals to its people so that each citizen has opportunity to rise and grow. Just because we are over populated, we cannot shirk our shoulders and say we cannot do anything. This is no way to run a country.

True that population cannot be an excuse to take things as they are. Also we cannot say that govt. is 100% bad - I'm not saying corruption is not there...but when it comes to empowerment its has not done such a bad job. Examples are you and me who are able to communicate via internet - to have come up to a level where we have access to technology.