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Please join "All India Anti-Reservation Front" too on facebook

Please join this group which is actively fighting against reservation. We all must extend our full support to such groups. .....



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Please join "All India Anti-Reservation Front" too on facebook


Please join this group which is actively fighting against reservation. We all must extend our full support to such groups. Thank you
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Defintly sir n we r in support
JAI HIND
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Thank you for your positive response. We must not leave our fellow fighters alone in the war zone. We wish to continue this movement and add more and more people like you. We need to explain all the general category people around you how this reservation system is choking their throats. We have found in our surveys that many of us are not aware of this disease. This message should reach up to the village level. Thank you once again.
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01-29-2012
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Ur welcome sir n keep writing n thanks fr ur guidence
JAI HIND
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Folks,

Fighting the political system on too many fronts will only diffuse the focus and result in wasted efforts.

On reservation, there are 2 opinions, and so at least 2 camps. On Corruption, there are no two opinions, at least openly.

So, if we have a choice to fight Reservation or Corruption, which one would you focus on, first?

Ganesan. :~(
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Ganasan sir, I assume that you are from open category. So I salute you first. Corruption and reservation both are cancer to the society but reservation system is directly affecting our kids and their future. We are giving you the information based on facts and findings. If you desire to find yourself, please visit any govt.department and get the list of candidates and their castes who are recruited recently. We have surveyed in few departments and found it between 80% and 90%. The future of our talented children are going to be blocked completely after few years.
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01-30-2012
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Dear Mr. Vinay Kumar,

Thanks for your salutes, and I humbly accept them. My salutes to you back for your polite and cultured reply, though I disagree with you on facts.

Why am I spending so much time trying to convince you? Because, I believe you can be a very good leader against corruption, a worthy cause. You're steadfast.

Yes, I'm from open category, and some of us from my family have paid for that. But I never complained about it, and accepted what I got gracefully, because I always felt reservation was on sound reasoning.

True, there's the genuine question: "Is it fair that I pay for my previous generations' wrong-doings"? Whether we (from open category) see or not, we do genetically enjoy the fruits of the 'discrimination in our favour'. Somewhere we need to compensate and move along.

Sure enough, reservation is not being implemented fairly. If you make common cause with those from the deprived classes who are never allowed to enjoy the fruits of reservation by the creamy layer, you have a strong case and you may even have a good chance of winning, as you'll be then in a majority. But you won't gain if you win on this issue. Are you ready to fight for the marginalized among the oppressed?

Even in a horse race, they add handicaps to winnable horses to make every horse winnable, as much as possible.

There are times in life when 2 well-meaning people, 2 good propositions, come head-on. Most often, we side with our own people, and we can't see the fairness of the other side. This is true of the people on the other side also. So, 2 good (or at least non-wrong-doing) people end up fighting each other. Tragic indeed.

Do we want to be like animals in a jungle, fighting it out, or we want to resolve issues amicably? If the latter, we should be willing to see things from an unbiased angle. Very difficult, but do-able. Do we want to be like the rest of the 99%, or do we want to rise above them? We should decide.

I come from a rural background but my parents wisely moved into larger town (& later city) to take advantage of opportunities.

My next generation knew right from the start that they would be handicapped. So, they set their eyes higher and are doing very well, not requiring to compete within India. The world is their stage.

Take the case of the jews; you'll see they've made an advantage of their handicaps. (I'm not discussing as to whether Jews were wronged, or were the wrong-doers. That's a separate issue. I'm just saying that they were persecuted against, and reservation is in no way comparable to what the jews went through.) There are many such cases.

I agree that everyone may not make it like jews. But today, opportunities are aplenty, and you don't have to work on 'zero sum' basis. You can create your opportunities.

Take even the case of India. The west discriminated against us (and all developing countries). We imported heavily, but exported little. We beat them in their own game, through dominance in IT, not originally our strength, and now they are crying against outsourcing. The west are now the handicapped society. Their future is bleak.

Understand about 'survival of fittest'. You can get stronger if you ignore reservation and move on. The more the handicaps, the higher you can get. It's all in our minds. If you keep telling your children "you're suffering reservation", they will imbibe it, fight against it all their lives, and may never succeed. If you tell them, "look, you need to do well enough so reservation won't matter", they will do well globally.

Let me hasten to add. I genuinely believe reservation is a MUST to set right past prejudices.

Have you read the quote: "God, give us the grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed, the courage to change the things that can be changed, and the wisdom to distinguish one from the other"?

Let's face it. Any amount of whining won't undo reservation. You're wasting your time.
The wise convert every problem into an opportunity. The others see a problem in every opportunity.

Try to see how the whole society can move up, not just yourself and your kith and kin and your community. If those from the other communities don't do it, don't worry. You can't change the world. But you can surely change yourself. And the moment you see things with a different perspective, you'll see a very different picture... a world full of opportunities. Life is not just goodies,... the material things. The world is full of opportunities.

Work for everyone, including those you consider in your opposite camp. It will surely be difficult initially. But the moment you start seeing things in that perspective, you'll enjoy your life more and more. You'll be at peace with yourself. Till then, you'll only keep suffering.

Reservation puts one section of people against another, neither of them being a wrong-doer. A very unjust situation. So, we need an honourable way out for everyone, not just for us.

Corruption puts thieves against the rest of the people who are not wrong-doers. (Even if they pay bribe, they often do it left with no choice; I'm not talking about those who use bribing as a tool to get their work done. I'm talking about aam aadmi). So, we need to fight it tooth and nail. We have borne it for over 6 decades. When someone like Anna leads, it FOCUS like laser and try to make the movement succeed.

Even if you are not convinced about all these arguments, purely from a pragmatic angle, it is better to fight the very few wrong-doers (corrupt) first, and reserve your fight against reservation for a time after corruption is substantially minimized with something like a good Lokpal.

Thanks,

Ganesan. :~)
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Well said sir n keep in touch
JAI HIND
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Corruption and castism/reservation are two seperate issues, we should not mix them, but must be dealt seperately. Corruption is a world wide problem and inherent among people of word society. Untill mentality of common man is corrupt, corruption cannot be eliminated. Merely abusion of politicians is not at all the solution. On other hand the vigorous movement and hatered against Govt/politicials and beurocracy creates a negative sentiment on their functioning and negative sentiment on our economy, which is of very sensitive nature now a days.
Reservation, is prevailing in india for more than three generations, but results are not impressive and desired on contrary casteism has gone strong. In my opinion we are making people handicapt rather than making them competitive and progressive. It cannot be justified that a revenge ful reversal of social condition should be imposed on the sibligs for deed of their fore fathers. If it is true then why we are not asking to rule british for centuiries. The only solution which is acceptable and juftified is the equality in all respect, but not renenge ful reversion. If corrective steps are not talen in time it will gain a giant shape and will act like a "Bhasmasur".
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  #10  
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He i will be joining you on facebook can you give me your link.
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