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Should Shri Anna Hajare form a Political Party ?

Anna hazare himself should not be contesting in election..but his team members should do it..they should form a political party,,the .....



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  #41  
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Anna hazare himself should not be contesting in election..but his team members should do it..they should form a political party,,the gutter can be cleaned wid going into the gutter not from outside..
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Jai Bharat

Dear Ganeshan, you have done a valuable job and very rightly and effectively pointed out the issues which any group of persons may face once they work under the banner of a political party. So friends, let’s move on the discussion further:

If Anna were to form a political party and contest elections or field candidates, we need to understand how he or Team Anna will face the following tricky issues”:

Before discussing questions raised, I share my experience which I gathered in recent past. Here, I feel that instead playing in the hands of present political sheep (not leaders as majority are just followers of party’s high command's order), Team Anna and other like minded patriots of Bharat should be ready to create a new mass of Bhartiyas instead present modern Indians, by convincing them (washing their brains) as it happened in recent “Anti Corruption Movement” at Ramilala Ground, Delhi after a SIMPLE MESSAGE OF ANNJI TO ALL BHARTVASIES:

Why I am Saying this? I have some reasons:

Dear friends likewise me, many of you also went to Ramlila Ground, Delhi and also participated in marches at locality of yours in all over Bharat during those 14 days' movement against corruption.
While spending time at Ramlila Ground, Delhi and traveling through Metro Train, Busses, etc., I have counted some POSITIVES about BHARTIYAS (which would be a new Mass for Annaji and his political party)

1. Well Disciplined: All participants be it Male or Female, Educated or Uneducated, Urban or rural, Rich or Poor, Kids, Teenagers, Youth, Matured, Senior Citizens from any religion, region, cast, creed and etc. etc. were behaved liked a TRUE BHARTIYA. There not even a Single instance of any mischievous act was reported anywhere (movement places all over Bharat) during those 13 days. This was an Eighth wonder of the World that at RAMLILA GROUND, Delhi Police was managing show without having even sticks (Dandas) in their hands. And many police personnel were supporting this movement with smile.

2. Born Leaders: Bhartiyas needs no tailor-made leader for any good cause. Even in the absence of any big organization (Sangthhon), Leaders (as Annaji and team members were as common man as other Bhartiyas until the success of Movements), mob movers,
at every location of Bharat, all bhartiyas like Lawyers, Doctors, IITians, Executives, Entertainment personalities, students, kids, teenagers, etc. organized big Marches and a step ahead not allowed any Political Party leader to get involve in their holy movement.

3. Helpful: All Bhartiyas showed true colour of Humanity every where. This witnessed the power of words like VANDEMATRAM, JAI BHARAT, BHARAT MATA KI JAI, ANNAJI APP AAGEY BADO, DESH AAP KI SAATH HAI, and SO ON. Many Bhartiyas on their own set up stalls like Medical Helps, Volunteer helps, Eatable distributions, etc.

4. Ready to share: At Ramlila ground, the way people were distributing water, tea, bananas, choley Bhaturey, breakfast, launch packets, Biscuits, etc., sending a message that Bhartiyas are ready to move towards old Fabric of SHARING from the present SNACHING tendency of some modern Indians.

5. Patriotisms: The way youth of Bharat come ahead in this movements, it reminds that our young Generation is Fed-up with Western Culture and Style. Under jeans and T-shirts, all physical bodies are well occupied by Pure and Sacred SOULS of BHARTIYAS.
I witnessed many Bhartiyas those came at Ramlila ground by Luxury cars with full of Water Bottles & eatables. They Distributed the same to people standing in long queues in a manner that it was giving them satisfaction and pride to serve nation (Bharat).

6. Courageous: Bhartiyas were ready to go to Jail like Freedom Fighters. Just see how one Bhartiya enters the Parliament with an all Good Intention.

7. Intelligent Repliers: When some people tried to colour this movement with Communalism, Bhartiyas of that Community gave a “Befitting Reply”. I witnessed many of that particular community people at Ramlila ground doing all good to mass of Bharat. Even Cast and Creed did not play any role in this movement, exhibiting that every honest and patriot (119 crores) is Bhartiya. We (under the leadership of Annaji and Team) need to teach a lesson to just one Crore Modern Indians.

8. No shortage of talent: In the reformation path of this modern India into Bharat Mahan, Bhartiyas are ready to lend every bit of their talent totally Free.
The Best Example is of Dr. Trehaan and Team. Although Team Anna consist IITian, IAS, IPS, top Lawyers, Scholars and intellectuals from every field of talent, the entry of Dr. Trehaan shows that now Bhartiyas should not worry about current lower standard political practices of poor modern Indians.

I know many friends can make this list long and long as there is no shortage of positives in Bharat and Bhartiyas. I wrote this as I felt the same at the deep of my heart.

I will discuss the issues raised by Dear Ganeshan one by one in continuing posts.

(I am unable to give my like for any post, how can be this done? please guide)

Jai Bharat

Last edited by sgaserv.com; 09-11-2011 at 01:03 PM
  #43  
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FANTASTIC Post sgaserv....BEAUTIFUL...!!!

Yes, these are the very reasons that I was suggesting Anna's supporters should contest Elections...and you've put them down so nicely on paper.

Essays like these must continue to pour forward...inspiring us to remain united...and motivating us to work harder, better and smarter...so that we can take the fight right to the finish...to ensure that Corruption is put an end to for ever...and we're able to Create the India of our Dreams.

Thank You,

Summit.
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No. of villages"

So how many is that...in all...?
Gentle Babu mosay ! "The Number of villages is 638596."
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We want democracy but not another party.

Present political system in our country has brought us to to such a pass that the government is not working for people. Though it is formed by elected representatives of the people, it does not carry people's aspirations or will. It is not at all people's government. People have no say in the government. People are exercising very limited choice i.e; they simply elect one political party or another or an independent based on a manifesto released by them. The governance of political parties is as per the will of people. Only a few leaders control the parties. People have no say in setting up command of a party. Ballets are not deciding who should preside over a party and who all should form the executive committee to decide all the party affairs. We have only autocratic rule within political parties. A few shrewd people or even one single person who can organize by whatever means some demonstration of support at a meeting indicated as plenary becomes the boss for all purposes. He/she selects a panel of the executive for the party. He/she or his/her appointed body selects the candidates for contesting elections on behalf of that party. The case is similar for more or less all parties. If people elect one party, those few leaders at the helm of that party only decide how to rule the country. The result is that we have autocratic rule in the garb of democratic rule. The people can not remove the government or the elected representatives until their term is over. Naturally the those having power are using it the way they like to promote their own personal interests. Who cares for the nation or the people at large under such circumstances? We have to change the system prevailing now to what it is supposed to be according to our constitution. Anna Hazare and his likes are crusading to bring democracy back for the people of the country. They shall not start another political party to play by the existing rules. We must bring about change in the system of operation. Not just one government.
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Present political system in our country has brought us to to such a pass that the government is not working for people. Though it is formed by elected representatives of the people, it does not carry people's aspirations or will. It is not at all people's government. People have no say in the government. People are exercising very limited choice i.e; they simply elect one political party or another or an independent based on a manifesto released by them. The governance of political parties is as per the will of people. Only a few leaders control the parties. People have no say in setting up command of a party. Ballets are not deciding who should preside over a party and who all should form the executive committee to decide all the party affairs. We have only autocratic rule within political parties. A few shrewd people or even one single person who can organize by whatever means some demonstration of support at a meeting indicated as plenary becomes the boss for all purposes. He/she selects a panel of the executive for the party. He/she or his/her appointed body selects the candidates for contesting elections on behalf of that party. The case is similar for more or less all parties. If people elect one party, those few leaders at the helm of that party only decide how to rule the country. The result is that we have autocratic rule in the garb of democratic rule. The people can not remove the government or the elected representatives until their term is over. Naturally the those having power are using it the way they like to promote their own personal interests. Who cares for the nation or the people at large under such circumstances? We have to change the system prevailing now to what it is supposed to be according to our constitution. Anna Hazare and his likes are crusading to bring democracy back for the people of the country. They shall not start another political party to play by the existing rules. We must bring about change in the system of operation. Not just one government.

The ideas are Great...but HOW will you...or we...do it...?

How can you change Politics without bringing CHANGE IN THE LEADRSHIP ITSELF...

Do you think Politics is something outside you...?...Shun Politicians - I mean, the corrupt ones among them, BUT BY NO MEANS SUGGEST THAT POLITICS IS BAD...POLITICS IS WHAT RUNS YOUR COUNTRY...AND WILL IN THE FUTURE TOO...BY SHUNNING POLITICS YOU'RE ONLY SHUNNING YOUR FUTURE...

POLITICS IS YOUR LEADERSHIP...AND WILL ALWAYS BE SO...BY SAYING YOU DON'T WANT TO ENTER POLITICS...YOU'RE SAYING...THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE YOUR OWN LEADER...YOU DON'T WANT TO LEAD YOURSELF...

THE REAL PROBLEM IS THAT PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTRY ARE SUFFERING FROM A LACK OF TRUST IN THEIR OWN POLITICIANS...WE HAVE TO CURE THAT...BY BRINGING IN POLITICIANS WHO ARE HONEST AND TRUSTWORTHY...IF YOU AND I DON'T DO THAT, WHO WILL...WHY CAN'T YOU AND I BE THE TRUSTWORTHY LEADERS THAT THE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR...WILL YOU ALWAYS CONTINUE TO FIRE YOUR GUN FROM THE SHOULDERS OF OTHERS, AND TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY YOURSELF...?

Is that really how it is...?

Tell me.

Summit.
  #47  
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Gentle Babu mosay ! "The Number of villages is 638596."

And how do you propose to work with and manage 638596 people...

We have 545 MPs in our Parliament....i.e. about 1171 villages Per MP...

If every MP wishes to go to devote one day's time to every village...they will need 3.21 years to do so...ONCE...

Instead, with one Person Per Village...you'll need 1 day...

Your idea is Good...but how will you work with and manage 638596 people...and that's just for the Villages...?

Thanks,

Summit.

Last edited by Summit Ensign; 09-11-2011 at 04:29 PM
  #48  
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Dear Friends,

ANYBODY WHO THINKS HE IS WITH ANNA MUST READ THIS POST BY GANESAN...urgently...

In addition to stressing that Anna's Supporters should fight Elections, we must also prepare ourselves on the points that our Respected Member Ganesan has raised here -
Send a Message & Thanks Note to ANNA...
Make sure you read this...it really is very important...

Thanks,

Summit.
  #49  
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Jai Bharat


"FANTASTIC Post sgaserv....BEAUTIFUL...!!!

Yes, these are the very reasons that I was suggesting Anna's supporters should contest Elections...and you've put them down so nicely on paper."


Dear Summit, thanks a lot.
I really appreciate your dedication towards this noble cause.

The views, analysis, problem raised alongwith solutions, feedbacks, etc. written by all, especially you, Ganeshanji, Praksashji, Bhargaviji, etc. are worth reading and keeping.

I read latest views of Ganeshanji which you have posted as a fresh thread. Excellent.

I will continue with some length discussions.

Jai Bharat
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Thanks sgaserv.

 




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