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High time.....anna supporters should contest next elections and we should make them win

Dear Friends, If the title surprised or stunned you, I can understand. But I am saying this only after careful .....



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High time.....anna supporters should contest next elections and we should make them win


Dear Friends,

If the title surprised or stunned you, I can understand.

But I am saying this only after careful deliberations, strongly taking from what Kiran Bedi said after the Parliamentarians ditched Anna again by leaving the Parliament early today (26-Aug-2011) without commencing the debate on the Jan Lokpal Bill.

This is in continuation of what I had earlier presented in -

Lokpal can CERTAINLY be passed within 2+1/2 Years.

And the Reason ? Again in line with what Kiran Bedi said today, you can read -

OUR VOTES - 5-Year Fixed-Deposits with Consistently Negative Returns

It is high time that we start fielding in our elections Non-Political Candidates, i.e. Candidates who are Independent of any Political Party, and at the same time also Supporters of the Jan Lokpal Bill, and get them to win with our votes. If we really want to put an end to the arrogance and almost criminal indifference with which these so-called 'Netas' treat us, then it's time we start bringing honest, fresh, non-political people to power. Otherwise, there is no way I see out of this quagmire.

The chance to stop the abuse of our own power against ourselves is in our hands today. The opportunity to stop the thrashing at the hands of our own servants is in our hands today. The might to rescue our sovereignty from the clutches of our subduers is in our hands today. The strength to snatch back our rights from the ones who usurped them is in our hands today. The vigour to liberate our destiny from the grips of its captors is in our hands today. If we don't do it now, when will we ? Will we ever get another chance ?

Annaji has raised to a feverish pitch the consciousness of a nation hereto sleeping for six decades. That is now surging like a SPIRITUAL TSUNAMI through its land, water and sky, waking every Indian up to the dream and reality of a honest and clean future. Let the gushing torrent of this Tsunami wash out and away all the dirt that has gathered in the dark cellars of this democracy today.

I urge all of you to consider this idea, and circulate it among all supporters of Annaji if you feel it has teeth.

We must make change arrive! This is a very strong chance we have.

Vande Mataram.

Summit.

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Anna ji jo kr rhe hai n jaise kr rhe hai shayad unhe zada achha tarika malum hai n unhone maharashtra me apne isi tarike se hi jeet haasil ki thi na ki election ladke. agr anna ji election ki baat karenge to unhe mil rha support khatm ho jayega kyoki aam aadmi ko aaj sbse zada nafrat politics se hai.gandhi ji ne bhi freedom ke liye koi election nahi lada tha ye hume yaad rakhna chahiye JAI HIND
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Friends,i would like to discuss something on this topic.. This thought raised by Mr Sumit, may be very important and helpful for the bright future of our country, if it can be implemented... Because we are facing many more problems we will have to fight for.. Aur harek mudde ko lekar aise logo k pass jana jinka fayda hi us problem ko banaye rakhne me hai, then we will be helpless..and when public is supporting Anna ji and his cause then this can be a better and brighter option..atleast for our future,though it may take more time and power...A GREAT THOUGHT..
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"we must respect our parliament"

"Gentle men ! We must respect our parliament"
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no absolute wrong thinking that come elect and do. politics is so dirty that good and honest person become dishonest. since it requires ampule of money and after spending it from own pocket one will thing how will i recover this. if its not from pocket and sponsored by someone, elected person come under their influence make necessary favor out of law or change law accordingly. system has to be change and that fight can be fought successfully remaining outside from politics.
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Friends,i would like to discuss something on this topic.. This thought raised by Mr Sumit, may be very important and helpful for the bright future of our country, if it can be implemented... Because we are facing many more problems we will have to fight for.. Aur harek mudde ko lekar aise logo k pass jana jinka fayda hi us problem ko banaye rakhne me hai, then we will be helpless..and when public is supporting Anna ji and his cause then this can be a better and brighter option..atleast for our future,though it may take more time and power...A GREAT THOUGHT..

Thanks Chintan.....but we may now hold this idea in reserve...to be employed only if required...Because the FIRST ROUND OF THE BATTLE HAS BEEN WON....Congratulations to you on Our Victory!
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no absolute wrong thinking that come elect and do. politics is so dirty that good and honest person become dishonest. since it requires ampule of money and after spending it from own pocket one will thing how will i recover this. if its not from pocket and sponsored by someone, elected person come under their influence make necessary favor out of law or change law accordingly. system has to be change and that fight can be fought successfully remaining outside from politics.

aliens...thanks for your input...that is why I'm suggesting to fight it as a TEAM...more specifically, as TEAM ANNA....but anyways, first Congratulations to you on Our Victory in the First Round!
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Anna ji jo kr rhe hai n jaise kr rhe hai shayad unhe zada achha tarika malum hai n unhone maharashtra me apne isi tarike se hi jeet haasil ki thi na ki election ladke. agr anna ji election ki baat karenge to unhe mil rha support khatm ho jayega kyoki aam aadmi ko aaj sbse zada nafrat politics se hai.gandhi ji ne bhi freedom ke liye koi election nahi lada tha ye hume yaad rakhna chahiye JAI HIND

Dear ss6471,

First........Congratulations to you on Our Victory in the First Round!

Ab, Kuchh Baatein
on what you said.

First, if we want freedom from corruption, then we have to shed our negative view of politics, and see it in a positive light. Politics is no rocket-science, rather it is a very fundamental part of our lives, because it IS SIMPLY THE FORCE THAT RUNS OUR EVERYDAY LIVES. We talk a lot about changing our lives - but, do you, and we, realize that doing so would mean to first be able to CONTROL THE FORCES THAT CONTROL OUR LIVES. There are two kinds of forces in our lives - INTERNAL and EXTERNAL. The INTERNAL ones we can control by control over ourselves; however by NO MEANS DOES IT MEAN THAT IT IS EASY. IN FACT, IT IS MORE DIFFICULT THAN CONTROLLING THE EXTERNAL FORCES, which is the second point I'm going to come to.

A lot of the EXTERNAL FORCES arise as a result of our Internal Forces, or more correctly, the expression of our Internal Forces. The more disciplined our internal forces are, the Greater the Chances that the external forces are too. For example, if there are five people in a room, the more of that five that can stay disciplined, the more the atmosphere in that room stays disciplined. When that 5 TURNS into 125-CRORES, the more that stay disciplined, the more INDIA stays disciplined. Translated, that means - a LESS CORRUPT India.

When we say we don't want to ENTER POLITICS, we actually say we don't want to CONTROL THE EXTERNAL FORCES that control us. Since EXTERNAL FORCES arise directly from INTERNAL FORCES, we're really saying we don't want to CONTROL THE INTERNAL FORCES. Translated, it means -WE DON'T WANT TO CONTROL OURSELVES.

The Politics around us is basically a reflection of who we are, what we are. By stressing that POLITICS IS BAD - we're saying - WE ARE BAD.

Understand my dear friend, the REFUSAL to ENTER POLITICS is the REFUSAL TO CHANGE OURSELVES - a REFUSAL TO CHANGE WHO WE ARE, AND WHAT WE ARE.


And the major weapon to bring in Change in ourselves is - EDUCATION. The lack of that alone is the cause of more than 95% of the Political Chaos that you see in the country.

For Evidence, just look at the Educational Levels of many of our Members of Parliament and State Assemblies. Many of them possess Educational Levels that are less than many of the Clerks in our Government offices. Some of them have had only Four or Five Years of schooling. Contrast this with many Rickshaw-Pullers, Street-side Vendors and Vegetable Sellers I've met who possess University Masters' Degrees.

And that exactly is the reason why you see so much confusion in our Ruling Systems today. Maybe you still remember the scenes of mayhem in our Assemblies - Members raining blows on each other and throwing mikes, breaking chairs, tables and furniture, leaving many injured and bleeding.

BUT YES, I can understand your apprehension. A lot of people in our country are disinterested in joining politics because of WHAT THEY SEE ABOUT IT - namely, ask businessmen for funds, go soliciting for votes, quabble with your party members, point fingers at the opposition, rig polls, cause election violence, call up unreasonable bandhs, strikes, dharnas, indulge in corruption, and commit other acts so unworthy of Leaders of a Nation. But almost all of that happens because of that one basic criterion - LACK OF EDUCATION.

I'd like to make a little Clarification here - when I speak of EDUCATION, I mean EDUCATION not only in theory, but also the LEARNING, CAPACITY and the MOTIVE to PUT THAT EDUCATION INTO PRACTICE. And apart from that there is also another kind of Education you need - THE EDUCATION OF BODY, MIND AND SPIRIT. The First kind of Education teaches you the Facts of the World, and how to Creatively Use those Facts in your Career for the Development of the Country, World and Economy, and the Second kind teaches you the Values of Honesty, Integrity, Character, Humanity, Love, Selflessness, Sacrifice, Justice and Social Service.

Coming back to our discourse, I therefore question the decision NOT TO ENTER POLITICS. The way to bring CLEANLINESS in our POLITICAL SYSTEMS is not to AVOID POLITICS, but to RATHER EDUCATE YOURSELF IN THEORY, PRACTICE, BODY, MIND AND SPIRIT, and then to Enter Politics with a TRAINED PERSONALITY and a HONEST CHARACTER, and to Work Selflessly for the development of the Nation, Society and the World.

But sadly, we lack this kind of Politics in our country, and also in a majority of the World, and therefore the impression on us that POLITICS IS BAD. True, I agree, Politics IS Bad, but what are WE doing to make it BETTER ? If you do what I said here, and many others do too, then we can have many more HONEST, EDUCATED, TRAINED, CAPABLE and EFFICIENT people join Politics, and a Society and Polity that works better - much, much better.

In my message I did not ask Annaji to join Politics, because he is at a level that is much higher than Politics. What I asked was the SUPPORTERS (please read my original message carefully) of Annaji, like you and me, or maybe personalities more trained and knowledgeable, like Retired Supreme or High Court Judges, Ex-IAS, Ex-IPS, Ex-IFS or other Ex-Administrative Officers and the like, and others, sympathetic to Anna Hazare's and the Nation's Cause, run for Elections. That would help us ensure we're able to vote for People who actually Intend to fulfil their Election Promises, and Not for those who only Intend to get our Votes and then Forget us.

Hope I've been able to make my stand clear. Hope this helps others too.

Thank you,

Jai Hind.

Summit.

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Rightly said , there is no need to act ostrich anymore as this has actually created the face of present corruption infested india.
I know so many people whom I encouraged ,to no avail, to contest election as independent candidate. I now realize if only 20% of political professionals (Netas) were dedicated to the casue of serving the nation things would have been different.
Still not much is lost, lets create a social group on here and give it a thought.
In order to bring about change only retaliation is not enough ,to have a complete turnaround we also need to hit the nail on the head rather trying to pull a slanted nail out.

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Subodhk
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Rightly said , there is no need to act ostrich anymore as this has actually created the face of present corruption infested india.
I know so many people whom I encouraged ,to no avail, to contest election as independent candidate. I now realize if only 20% of political professionals (Netas) were dedicated to the casue of serving the nation things would have been different.
Still not much is lost, lets create a social group on here and give it a thought.
In order to bring about change only retaliation is not enough ,to have a complete turnaround we also need to hit the nail on the head rather trying to pull a slanted nail out.

Regards
Subodhk

Exactly Subodh.

I'm all for you idea for creating a social group and discussing about this. I might not be able to join politics right away, because I'm still continuing with my studies, and as I said, I cannot become a COMPLETE CITIZEN (sounds like borrowing from the Raymond Man...the Complete Man...HA HA..) without EDUCATION, but I feel we'll at least be able to put forward our views to the more Capable of our Knowledgeable Population (Anna's think tank, and a lot of the people that I've talked about earlier), and they could use them if they really find teeth.

A Caveat Though : I'd not really be able to be a Big Participant in that group rightaway, since I've to focus a lot on my studies, but then as I cover and complete them, with time I might be able to make more meaningful contributions to it.

Thank you for your contribution to this post. It gives me immense sense of relief to find one more of the very few Indians I see around me thinking on Positive, Constructive Lines.

Hurling Verbal Brickbats at our Netas is very easy, but Participating in Our National Processes is tough. That is what will actually test, and decide, our Eligibility to ask for and deserve more of a better nation.

Thanks once again. And Yes - Congratulations on Our Victory in the First Round of the Anna Battle!

Wishing You all the Best,

Summit.
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